is deleting Cyber videos because they changed TOS, and now everything about how to perform break TOS.

People at r/datahoarders are backuping ALL videos including and are sharing it through

Please, if you can afford it (size wise), share. and fuck

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@Vortax as I explained to other folks on Twitter: YouTube owns us nothing. It's their platform for content monetization and their rules. We're free to use anything else, such as

@kravietz
I respect your POV, but deeply disagree.

He owes us everything. We are customers. We are not paying with money, but with our data and receiving ads, and that allowed then to earn a fucking TON of money. Even more, they decided unilaterally change TOS. I could understand if they forbid new videos, but they should respect those uploaded under previous TOS.

What's more, I agree that they legally can do it.

If something can be done does not mean that it's morally right.

My two cents.

@Vortax Google will be forbidden from doing this under Article 17 of the new EU Copyright Directive but it's not live yet. I'm not defending Google, I'm just encouraging everyone to stop depending on them.

@kravietz
Totally true. Unfortunately, till today, there is simply no alternative to YouTube. Not Vimeo, not peertube, nothing. So, having content banned from YouTube is a great loss, and we should make them know when they do something we don't like.

Datahoarders made a fucking great move backuping all this content. We need alternatives to YouTube, but until then, I think we should have right to protest when YouTube makes a dick move like this.

@Vortax Why "no alternative"? Peertube works like a charm. If you're a popular tutorial autor on YT, people will follow your content wherever you post it

@kravietz
Because there is no quality content on peertube (or content at all). It's the classic snowball case. People start uploading content, your popularity rises, more people upload, and you become a reference platform. Since you are reference, everyone uploads to you, other sites get no content, and to be heard, all people must come to you, or no one notices.

Peertube has no content. It is no alternative right now. Maybe in 5 years, but not now.

@Vortax also a bit of a correction on the "upload to you part" - Peertube is federated so it doesn't really matter where you upload; for example I could watch this fine "Python Async basics" video on troll.tv/videos/watch/fce3f4a5 Peertube instance regardless of where the author @andybalaam originally uploaded it - that's a whole different paradigm here, there's no "reference platform"!

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Question about peertube: is there also instances? If so, when the owner of the instance decided to close it, wouldn't all videos uploaded disappear?

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@Vortax @kravietz my understanding is yes: if the instance owner takes it down the videos are gone. My response: keep backups, and try to choose an instance where I can trust the owner to give warning if that has to happen.

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@kravietz

Well, that is very problematic, indeed. Not much of a problem if all you have uploaded are a handful of videos, but I can't see those channels with hundreds of them be willing to reupload everything each time the owner of a instance gets bored and decides to close it.

@Vortax @kravietz it requires trust in the instance maintainer, just like we (unwisely) trust Google not to delete YouTube videos.

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