Can someone recommend a phone to buy for a person who is not technologically proficient at all and has never owned a smartphone but is not a privacy disaster? I'm really not sure here.

@TheDoctor iPhone

Easy to use, privacy minded, very newbie friendly and just works well 😊

@Wetrix Because you were totally into Steve Jobs? I mean, I think I could easily find some very valid reasons not to use Apple products. I don't hate it or anything but I'm somewhat sceptical

@TheDoctor well when u can find a better reason to use android I'm open to hearing it πŸ™‚

It certainly won't be for privacy or security so I don't see any upsides myself for me.

@Wetrix I totally agree, stock android is terrible for privacy which is why I use a custom rom. But I was rather talking about arguments against Apple and not ones for android :)

@TheDoctor oh yeah for sure if you have points against apple I'm open to hearing them. 🍏😊

@Wetrix I admit I would have to do more thorough research to back it up but issues with planned obsolescence and purposefully throttling older devices come to mind. Also I'm not a big fan of being locked in a walled garden which is what I see the Apple ecosystem as.

@TheDoctor well you can jail break your iPhone and your not be in the walled garden, but it's really bad to do that. Then you might as well just be on Android.

They did slow down phones but stopped that about 2 years ago.

Also another perk is that app store and apple makes almost 3x or more than Google store so most developer's go apple first or not android at all.

😊🍎

@Wetrix @TheDoctor apple has concerned me with their past actions, like the phone slowing you mentioned, error 53 and repair price gouging compared to independent repair stores.

@Wetrix @TheDoctor but they're more thorough with their app store which is great for the lower chance of malware in there and terrible if they make some bad decision. you can sideload and use altstore, though!

@gudishvibes @TheDoctor apple is def not perfect your not going to get any arguments from me there 🍏 They aren't perfect but Google is terrible and doesn't even pretend to care about your privacy πŸ₯Ά

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