Imagine where we are in terms of general education if in 2020 this picture has hundreds of likes and retweets with comments like "WOW BEES RESPECT HOLY ICON" and nobody mentions pigments in oil paint... 🤦‍♂️

@kravietz we’re fucked, forget the bees, they aren’t the half of it!

@CyberSocialist

Yeah, 9m people are just going to disappear. I think I've heard that before. Wow, very socialist, such decency.

@kravietz again, Apartheid South Africa didn’t disappear. Don’t be so ahistorical with your ‘critique’. No ones has proposed extermination: the move to a democratic secular state is as far removed from Genocide as one could invent. That’s the point: stop inventing! Zionism is racism.

@CyberSocialist

Your meme somehow missed this nuanced views of "a democratic secular state".

@kravietz it’s been view held by human rights advocates and progressives for many years now ‘A Modest Proposal’ sums it up quite succinctly. I’d be extremely surprised if you weren’t aware of it. it doesn’t propose killing or expelling anyone: no ones life is in danger. It’s the only option that is both Just and Fair. Every other alternative sanction breaches of international law on a massive. Zionists pretend otherwise but intellectual honesty requires you to look beyond tribal allegiances.

@CyberSocialist

I'm all for looking beyond tribalism but do you realize that half of the plan depends on a political party for which any normalisation of relations with Jews is "the worst sin"?

P.S. the author is a convicted paedophile but let's assume this doesn't influence his proposal

@kravietz which political system are you referring to, Israel?? Jews aren’t Israelis and Israelis aren’t jews: they’re not synonyms. The US need only remove funding until Israel compiles with international law.

And criminal prosecutions in a domain entirely outside the remit of international justice are unlikely to impact someone’s lifetime spent advocating consistently for a Just and Fair resolution to conflict, the only way to lasting peace. Unless you have evidence to the contrary?

@CyberSocialist

> which political system are you referring to

This the founding principle of Hamas. And I'm sure you are aware of recent case when a Palestinian "journalist" Hind Khoudary denounced another Palestinian journalist Rami Aman to Hamas for being on a Skype call with a journalist from Israel. Then he was arrested and never seen since. This is how she justified it:

@kravietz Hamas have nothing to do with the occupied West Bank nor occupied Jerusalem, as you well know. Illegally occupied, under international law, for 72 years now, long before Hamas were a thing. Again, as you well know.

Point of observation: Ignorance of Israel’s role in creating Hamas seems to be a common occurrence with Zionists, why is that? 🤔

@CyberSocialist

Was there any particular thing, like a major event, that could have possibly triggered West Bank occupation? 🤔

@kravietz @kravietz yes, Israel’s 1948 Genocide of Palestine, the Nakba, where 700,000 Palestinians were forcibly displaced - documented by many Israeli and Palestinian historians. And before than the British role in promising ‘Jews a Homeland’ (not a state, let’s be quite clear and historically accurate) in the 1920s . You are aware of these events, aren’t you?

@CyberSocialist

You're evading now. There's quite a gap between 1948 and 1967. Didn't any significant happen in like 1967?