30,000 Cuban doctors currently active in 67 countries - many in Latin America and Africa, but also European nations including Portugal and Italy

bbc.com/news/uk-48214513

@kravietz what a ‘surprise’ that the ‘great’ British propaganda organisation has a negative Cuba story. Just literally, what we’re the fucking odds? Don’t believe the BBC narrative. They’ve done more to undermine positive steps from Corbyn for a social safety-net and a NHS that’s funded properly. All crap, fake partisan reporting 💩

@CyberSocialist

Or just arguing because someone dared to say people in Cuba are exploited?

@kravietz as if. I’m well read. The timing of this is enough to make anyone suspicious of the provenance of these assertions

@CyberSocialist

If you have just a little bit of self-respect, how can you support a regime whose whole economic model is based on *preventing its own citizens from leaving the country?*

Maybe I'm a bit more sensitive to such oppression because I was born in country that operated just on this principle... When you are not free to leave you country you are nothing more than property of the state - and I wish Western leftists admitted that eventually.

@kravietz Moderate Rebels covered this: the US is asking countries to refuse help from Cuban doctors asking them to recognise them as human trafficking victims. This is mainstream media cooperation with a deeply racist neoliberal State department. Pretending that ‘because you can leave’ you are ‘Free’ is a nonsense; go anywhere you like and you’re debt with follow you.

@CyberSocialist

yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-qu

Can you explain how in your understanding a ban on leaving your country - as NK, Cuba and USSR did - has anything to do with social justice? How do you explain & justify this? You call yourself a socialist - is forcibly keeping people in a country part of your socialism?

I'm genuinely interested. I've read a lot of justifications for why there's nothing wrong with living at $20/month in 70's Poland from people like JP Sartre living in $2000/pm France.

@kravietz you’re applying a ahistorical analysis to a country that’s been under an illegal and immoral blockade for the last 60 years. Actual wage levels per hour are not the issue. Neoliberalism doesn’t have the answer to climate destruction.

@CyberSocialist

And speaking about "ahistorical", do you know at all what was the objective of all the 20th century revolutions?

Abolish capitalism because socialism is going to do everything so much efficiently, with less surplus and more justice.

Now fast forward 50 years: all the socialist countries begging for Western loans and humanitarian help, some struggling with famines (NK), unable to feed themselves and secure decent level of living on their own.

"More efficient", remember?

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@kravietz again, your ahistorical analysis pits US-Western neoliberalism as normative and neutral , devoid of deleterious effects. To argue the merits of socialism you need to do it within the context of the places it’s taken root. International loans are a tool of neoliberal empire.

@CyberSocialist

> you need to do it within the context

Go on, surprise me. I'm not easily dismissed with a bunch of sophisticated-sounding truisms.

> International loans are a tool of neoliberal empire

Precisely my point! So why were socialist countries even taking them if their socialist economies were scientifically proven superior and more effective by Marx?

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